Host Andrew Walker welcomes back Bill Chen for a wide-ranging discussion centered on the world of REITs. Though the conversation was intended to focus on one stock, the duo instead explores why REITs have underperformed in recent years, capital cycle dynamics, governance issues, and where Bill sees current opportunities. They dive deep into the theoretical and practical aspects of REIT investing, dissect recent REIT liquidations, and discuss portfolio construction and leverage in event-driven opportunities.
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